[Carlie Q] Jacke0's guide to <Deadly Dolly>

Discussion in 'Support Guides' started by Jacke0, Sep 30, 2015.

  1. meteorologist

    meteorologist Well-Known Member

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    Nice overall.

    Lovely screenshots and detailed descriptions of how the skills work.

    Thanks for sharing your tips on skill combos and item builds

    But..
    It's weird how you inconsistently mention how her damage and scaling are nice and pretty good when they are clearly meh at best - as they should be

    She isn't item dependent , your focus on laning seems odd. Give last hits to another teammate.

    You missed the best tablet - courage

    Also, disagree that her mana usage is heavy at all- compare to other heroes

    Overall I'm glad u made the guide
     
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  2. Lachie95

    Lachie95 Forum Lurker

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    A pretty good guide, but I've gotta agree with meteorologist, she doesn't have big mana issues. I was laning against her with witch (don't ask why the Gaia on my side & her side weren't laning) and I found she was using her skills more often than me & I still needed to port back to base before her from having no mana.

    Edit: It might be a good idea to add in some heroes she can work effectively with. Already seen mention of Tryptic, I'm sure Aria would also work well too. Jom & Kotun both have useful pulls as well for her first skill, could allow you to immobilise the whole enemy team in a fight.
     
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  3. Jacke0

    Jacke0 I love Akise

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    Thnx for ur reply & comments ^^
    Let me get my point clear ( maybe its just with me )
    Carlie Q's mana cost r low but they deal low damage & they r spammable one after another in lane.
    If u r going to GvG match u will find urself spamming ur skills infront of the enemies just to "scare" them & make them back so you can farm safely , each combo in lane costs 150mana ( first & second )
    As well spamming ur 3rd to protect ur allies on the red & blue lane teamfights "through portals"
    Yes thw 3rd will get u back some mana but they r not enough unless u have more 2 teammaes with u so u can recover 90mana
    Thats why I recommend to have surprise talent with her
    The mana costs r low but they do require some spamming of the skills.
    For scaling
    Damage is extremely low but if u landed all of ur combo & hits , thats a total of 120% scaling , I cant say that this is bad for a support aside
    From max hp auto attacks
    For courage tablet
    I don't think that a support will be targeted first & stunned first leaving the carry unless they r aiming on u because u r the "new hero" leaving ur carry rek them lol.
     
  4. Nexus

    Nexus Active Member

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    Very good guide, I just wish her Ulti has a better damage and scaling to compensate the slow travelling it has.

    Can you tell me what are her base stats at level 15?
     
  5. Akuma2310

    Akuma2310 Active Member

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    First of all: Thanks for your guide!
    I appreciate it, really.
    And to all who said it would be "too early" and he would need more experience on Carlie.
    I do not see any reason why.
    I mean, he said he would update it and I am sure he will when he found out something interesting new.
    So where is the problem if he wrote a guide that early?
    It is very useful especially for those who have like 0 idea how to build and play her.
    Plus it is very in-depth (in my opinion) for a day-1 guide.
    But I still wanna know how you can know some advanced techniques if u only watched her in co-op the last weeks as I think bots don't do that stuff like the ult-teleport combo or do they? o_O would be crazy I think ^^

    Overall a very nice guide and you should keep on doing these in the future for new heroes!
     
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  6. Jacke0

    Jacke0 I love Akise

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    Sure , I can add them in my coming guides as well if u want ( if there is any coming )
    Lvl 1 - lvl 15
    Hp 530 - 1720 , 85 hp per level.
    Mana 400 - 1044 , 46 per level.
    Attack 54 - 107.20 , 3.80 per level.
    Attack speed 0.69 - 0.83 , 0.01 per level.
    Movement speed 4.20
    Critcal damage multiplayer 1.50
    Physical defense 18 - 60 , 3 per level.
    Magical defense 16 - 55.20 , 2.80 per level.
    Hp regen 1.00/ sec - 3.10/sec , 0.15/ sec per level.
    Mana regen 1.30/sec - 3.82/sec , 0.18/sec per level
    :)
     
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  7. Jacke0

    Jacke0 I love Akise

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    Thank u lol
    About that advanced tactic , the bot didn't do it , I did it lol
     
  8. Baconhero

    Baconhero Active Member

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    The Damage and Defense seem a bit too high for my taste, especially on a support. But i guess it's not op, at least not on Tryptic's level

    Don't have much times to make any thoughtful comments so i just gonna leave a like here :)
     
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  9. Jacke0

    Jacke0 I love Akise

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    The damage out put isn't bad indeed
    Her sheild thats scales with 50% also scales with her enhanced auto attack.
    That means every enhanced AA will be 100% scaled ( same as fighter )
     
  10. Akise

    Akise no longer Detective

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    I should totally get credit for this p:
     
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  11. JukedBox

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    Hermits isn't a bad option either due to her almost melee range.
     
  12. Jacke0

    Jacke0 I love Akise

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    Added new section for heroes that are well combined with Carlie !
    Added Carlie Q's Stats
    Added some addtional notes !
     
  13. meteorologist

    meteorologist Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is a bad option for Carlie for the same reason that it's bad on goroisha and ant
     
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  14. actinomycetemcomitans

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    Ant and goro have very good scalings thats the difference! Im not found of hermet on her but its not that bad
     
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    ant AA has mdef reduction so its not so bad to have a herm bruiser+in the clash ant also it means creep farming without sacrificing vision always,
     
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