Who is better?

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  1. Cygnux

    Cygnux School Is Boring...

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    Hi everyone...im deciding to buy new hero..This is my list...
    1. Marithus :mari:
    2. Debronee :deb:
    Can you tell me who is better?
    And why should i choose him...
     
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  2. KatnissNeverclean

    KatnissNeverclean 3-1-17

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  3. Cygnux

    Cygnux School Is Boring...

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    Why should i buy him?
     
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    KatnissNeverclean 3-1-17

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    KatnissNeverclean 3-1-17

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    Because I like his ult and it's great for pushing.
     
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    zupernuz KING OF B S

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    ~Xarams~ YouTuber

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    Debronee is better. A good debronee player can easily turn the game in their favor fairly early into the game. Marithus is just meh.

    Deb has more burst and surviviabily.
     
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  8. KatnissNeverclean

    KatnissNeverclean 3-1-17

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    Marithus is cooler >:[
     
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    ~Xarams~ YouTuber

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    I still remember how everyone called him op when he came out, because of his harvest. Good times.
     
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    Sadowmancer Miylynn ✿♥‿♥✿ Staff Member

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    I won't tell you who is better because they both are gods with the right players but I will tell you the pros and cons of each of them.

    Debronee, Melee assassin

    Information: Deb, the abbreviated version all hoc players use, is a strong hero. With his most recent buff he can be viable in lane once more. And in jungle as well.

    Pros:
    •Great Poke
    •High survivability
    •Great Damage
    •Always able to kill squishy heroes and mages

    Cons:
    •Squsihy
    •No mobility if WP and FA are on Cool Down
    •Easily killed if spotted by any mage
    •Kills on other fighters and mages depends on who got the first hit
    •Highly depends on intensify

    Deb is a god at killing unsuspecting heroes but if an adc spots him first he's a goner.

    So if you do pick up Deb here's what I recommend:

    Build late game:
    Jade Axe, LongBow, Divinity sword, Hades, King Killer, (Optional) Valkyrian robe/SSOD/WW/boots

    Tablets:
    Whispering, Soul eating, desecration/protective
    Inscriptions:
    Extra critical damage and physical attack


    Marithus, Melee assassin

    Information: A beast 1v1 no hero will ever win a 1v1 with marithus. Unless you somehow stun him or sneak up on him. He has the most harvest by neutral, meaning no items and talents and inscriptions.

    Pros:
    •Medium mobility
    •Great stun
    •Burst damage with jump
    •beast at sustain
    •split pusher

    Cons:
    •delayed stun
    •squishy
    •useless ultimate in team fights

    Note if marithus jumps into an enemy team trying to kill the adc chances are he's dead because he's a beast at 1v1 scenarios but quite weak when enemies are clumped up.

    Tip: ambush unsuspecting enemies, kill important enemies before a team fight starts so the enemy team has number disadvantage

    Recommendations:

    Build:
    Jade, LongBow, savage boots, divinity, SSOD, WW

    These are my opinions on both heroes. Hope this helped.
     
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    Cygnux School Is Boring...

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    Thanks guys...and what you choose?.....and what is squishy..xD
     
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  12. Entropy

    Entropy Well-Known Member

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    Deb can be counter by divine helmet, so use deb intensify wisely once you see enemy buy a divine helmet.

    Kagax have higher harvest and faster attack speed, so Kagax should win Marithus in 1v1 scenario.
     
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    KatnissNeverclean 3-1-17

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    Squishy means soft. Just kidding, squshies are people who are easy to kill with just few abilities/attacks. They are mostly adcs who deals large amounts of damage but often lacks in defenses and hp, making them vulnerable. (I feel so smart)
     
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    Sadowmancer Miylynn ✿♥‿♥✿ Staff Member

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    Kagax has to use a skill for his harvest. While marithus is passive
     
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    But bloodletting have really short CD (5sec or 6sec?), in 1v1 he can keep using bloodletting to get the harvest effect go on.
     
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    zupernuz KING OF B S

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    Marithus is a noob hero, good for nothing. Strong ranged fighter or mage will bully him. 1v1 game vs marith?? Ezpz.
     
  17. Cygnux

    Cygnux School Is Boring...

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    Like that so?
     
  18. zupernuz

    zupernuz KING OF B S

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    My suggestion... master the elf or aria for fighter.. dont use marith. Only noob play marith.
    Harvest?? Big joke... elf or aria will stun/root and marith will die before landing a single hit. And perse will do similar.
    Marith also has stun... fck with that... animation delay will fuck up the stun process..
    I was a marith player when he comes out, and after around 50 battles with him... fck... noob hero..back to my elf.
    https://hoctop.com/player/android/zupernuz/
    I retired tho, but as long as no major update for marith, my opinion should be good.
     
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    Sadowmancer Miylynn ✿♥‿♥✿ Staff Member

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    If i was him I'd take advice from a player that has more than 50 games.
     
  20. zupernuz

    zupernuz KING OF B S

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    I rape all marith with my elf. I know what to do. Evistix is alot better than marith. I cannot stand to play a looser hero as I always play 1vs 3 random mode.
    If marith was good, I will play hundreds games with him ... ( see my mystic/elf/dailiana/draez etc)

    Need marith rework... just remove animation delay... will be better.

    Marith as melee assasin?? Dont make me laugh. He is useless on 1v1 and also on gang bang. He has crappy gap closer.Harvest?? Nothing to harvest when he got stunned.
     
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